Interview with Drayton Bird - " Internet has accelerated direct marketing"

15.06.08 02:11 PM By S.Swaminathan

Paul Dervan had a chat with Drayton Bird, one of the legends of the Direct Marketing industry. His answers are incisive and pretty telling. Take a look:

Me: What is the single biggest change you noticed in direct marketing industry in the past 15-20 years?

Drayton: More people are doing it, less well.

Here are some of the things that have had significant effect on the marketing industry over the last four decades:

  • The  computer and particularly the speed with which data is available.
  • Databases. Now all organisations want databases because they realise the value they hold. They have seen how easy it is to capture data via a website.
  • Direct  marketing attracting more investment than general advertising
  • Personalisation  and customisation has allowed more relevant communications to be  produced.
  • The  decline in educational standards, especially literacy and numeracy
  • The  internet
  • The way in which the idea of the brand has come to seem important, even to people who have nothing to do with marketing – and who misunderstand it
  • Inflation, especially in media costs, where it has far outpaced general inflation, leading people to seek new ways of marketing
  • The greater desire for individual expression, frustrated by the move among those in power towards ever more centralisation. This mirrors what has happened in politics – e.g. the European Union.
  • Compliance  – and the obfuscation of language in the pursuit of covering  the corporate rump.
  • Changes  in attitudes to sex – greater openness, particularly in  advertising imagery.
  • The  increasing use of marketing techniques – usually badly and  often dishonestly applied – by government.
                      

Me: There seems to be a blur between direct marketing, ATL advertising and digital marketing. Do you find this?

Drayton: Yes there is. This is a good thing. This is not a difficult business to master and people should be able to understand and practice all three, since customers switch happily between them. Customers and their motivations do not change even if the media do. Actually as I point out in the new edition of Commonsense Direct and Digital Marketing, the word “digital” is a misnomer. We have digital TV and radio, but marketers don’t think of them as digital.

Me: Is the future of direct marketing looking bright?

Drayton: Yes. My former colleague Shelley Lazarus, now CEO of Ogilvy Worldwide said at the DMA conference not long ago that today, all marketing is direct. This is because of the internet, which is accelerated direct marketing.

Me: What are the common mistakes made by marketers?

Drayton: Here are some I listed recently for another interview...

  • Too  many amateurs in a business that calls for professionalism.
  • They  fail to study the past – or read.
  • They  “seek applause instead of sales” – Claude Hopkins  said that over 80 years ago.
  • They forget it’s just salesmanship and imagine it’s a branch of the entertainment business. Entertain, by all means, but make sure it’s relevant.
  • They  invest before testing – why guess when you can know?
  • They don’t measure. If you can’t measure it, you can’t manage it. What sane person invests in anything without measuring return on investment? Marketers do every day. Why? Because firms see it as an expense, not an investment. That’s why they cut marketing expenditure in recessions.
  • They  believe research will supply the answer – when it is only  indicative.
  • They  don’t study business as a whole - all they think about is  marketing.
  • They  fail to explain clearly to their colleagues what they are doing –  maybe because many don’t really know.
  • Over-optimism  and a naive belief that marketing, especially advertising will solve  business problems.
  • Hiring marketing directors and senior agency people without checking their credentials. There is too little due diligence in our industry.
  • Uncritical  acceptance of “gurus” who are often just recycling old  truths. Me, for instance.
               

Me: What advice would you give anybody starting off in marketing?

Drayton:

  • Read. It’s a very agreeable feeling when you walk into a meeting knowing more than anyone else.
  • Study people. They are the only profit centre in your business. If you really understand your customers you multiply your chances of success.
  • Constantly ask yourself: “What if?” - that is how ideas are born. You need an inquiring mind to succeed in this business.
  • Take an interest in as many things as possible outside marketing, which is a very dull subject. If you think about nothing else you will end up a tremendous bore – to others and yourself.


S.Swaminathan